IDW: Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin Launch Sketchy Free Speech Platform

When it comes to the Intellectual Dark Web, where its worst adherents monetise a free speech image while neglecting free speech principles, it makes sense their new business ventures still use the same old tricks.

Thinkspot, a new social media platform set to be “the intellectual playground for censorship-free discourse”, promises to be the beacon of hope in this era of tyrannical big tech overreach. Considering it’s under construction by both Jordan Peterson and his professional hypeman Dave Rubin, two controversial hypocrites of the new free speech absolutist movement, it’s important to examine these concerns before buying their new bag of false goods.

The subscription-based platform, which is being marketed as both an alternative to payment processors like Patreon and a social media alternative to content markets like Facebook and YouTube, seeks to make freedom the “central” tenant of the platform. “Once you’re on our platform,” Peterson told podcaster Joe Rogan, “we won’t take you down unless we’re ordered to by a US court of law.” Instead of setting “off limits” topics, there will be a set word requirement to avoid unthoughtful views. “If minimum comment length is 50 words, you’re gonna have to put a little thought into it,” Peterson said. “Even if you’re being a troll, you’ll be a quasi-witty troll.”

This is assuming the platform will be able to detect whether words are repeated or when letter tricks are used to game the system into hateful rhetoric, but such speech moderation doesn’t appear to be a concern. Instead, it’ll apparently be more democratic by using a voting feature to censor. “If your ratio of upvotes to downvotes falls below 50/50 then your comments will be hidden,” Peterson elaborates. People will still be able to see them if they click, but you’ll disappear.” He immediately clarified the specified limit for censor is still being judged. The site is still preparing for when their beta testers, such as Rubin, Michael Shermer, and the YouTuber turned failed UKIP candidate Carl Benjamin, begin to use the platform by their August launch.

It’s no secret that my work has been critical of these IDW figures over the past few months. When the term was originally coined by members Sam Harris, Eric Weinstein and journalist Bari Weiss last year, even lefties such as myself were willing to bypass the cringe of this “renegade thinkers” movement under the premise that free speech, intellectual debate and anti-authoritarian scepticism was going to be on full display. Sadly, some members have failed to meet my judgemental Alinskyite standards, others haven’t exactly voiced their opposition to these excess failures, all the while the rather pathetic grift of free speech virtue signalling rages on.

This sentiment was even shared Quillette, a centrist publication with a known previous history of IDW-sycophantic bias, which recently wrote around four constructive articles criticising Rubin, Peterson and others for being taken in by “the tribalist pull” of reactionary politics. This brand of ideological and audience capture is seen within NPC-like talking heads of the right-wing. These platforms include Prager University, Fox News, The Daily Wire, The Daily Caller and Breitbart which are known for taking varying degrees of money from their right-wing sugar daddies in Turning Point USA, Learn Liberty, Donors Capital Fund, DonorsTrust, Institute for Humane Studies, the CATO Institute, the Young America’s Foundation and many more.

“The public should demand that the liars, from the donors to their talking puppets, are made known so as not to waste our time with partisans-for-hire,” I said of these figures last year when looking into the dark money ties behind the country’s free speech college tours. Like Rubin, Peterson freely associates with such lying NPCs revering him as their intellectual despite being a supposed “true speech advocate”. Association doesn’t imply guilt, of course, but the nature of association does invite scepticism. Could it be that liars tend to co-mingle under the false song of free speech? After all, these figures are no stranger to the hypocrisy.

Last year, we reported on it was fundamentally hypocritical for a professor advocating for anti-censorship to sue various media outlets and universities for the crime of disagreeable speech. Peterson demanded Wilfrid Laurier University, Cornell University and Vox Media pay over $1.5 million each for supposed defamation damages for various comments labelling the man a “fascist” and “misogynist” for suggesting “it doesn’t seem accidental that [Peterson’s] scepticism about objective facts arises when it’s conveniently anti-feminist”. His lawyers demand all statements be “immediately retracted.”

It was also quite ironic that his lawsuits were filed through the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, the very same Canadian legal system Peterson criticized to fame for their stance on Bill C-16 which he believed offered no protections for free speech regarding transgender pronouns. I wrote at the time how it was funny for Peterson to rely on the anti-free speech system to suit his needs when he said he’d gladly go to jail if such anti-free speech pressure was waged against him. “His critics shouldn’t hold their breath if they’re waiting for a free speech defence of their own,” I sniped.

In his first lawsuit against Wilfrid Laurier professors Nathan Rambukkana, Herbert Pimlott and their Diversity and Equity Office staffer Adria Joel, Peterson demanded their private speech leaked to the public by teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd, which compared himself to a “charlatan” like Adolf Hitler or Milo Yianopolous, be silenced, retracted and paid for by the millions. The second lawsuit demanded their later statement of defence be retracted for citing his own words on why he brought about the lawsuit, arguing he “benefited from the press” surrounding the controversy and citing his own video about making sure teachers are “much more circumspect in their actions and their words.”

This censorious attitude was later rejected in his third lawsuit made against Kate Manne, a Cornell University assistant professor and the feminist author of “Down Girl: The Logic of Misogyny”, who was interviewed by Vox to criticise his book “12 Rules For Life” and whether the underlying philosophy was fair to label “misogynistic”. Ironically, Peterson sued both Manne and Vox writer Sean Illing despite the two having an intellectual disagreement over whether the work was actually hateful against women.

The idea Peterson could possibly display such attitudes was apparently so outside the bounds of debate, it’s worthy of millions of dollars, a full retraction and an outright apology his site would find as censorious outrage mob nonsense. This case was likely laughed out of the American courthouse since nothing came of it, while results of the Canadian cases haven’t been unsurfaced. Rubin, his new business partner and tour buddy, has also recently adopted the lawsuit threatening act, showcasing the bark vs bite of these figures.

I reported just last week about how Rubin labelled Quillette as a hub for “hit piece after hit piece” pushing “authoritarian drivel masked as more Lefty tolerance”, while at the same time calling for censorship against his critics at Twitter and its CEO Jack Dorsey here. “A crazy amount of anonymous account keep telling me fuck myself, how they hate me, and that I should my show the way the demand,” Rubin cried over Twitter, tagging the Twitter execs to say if they “have any thoughts” over how “this is obviously at least partial coordinated and I have some evidence.” This has since expanded into tagging his lawyers at Barnes Law over the New York Times and their recent article about “Making A YouTube Radical” which implies he’s either a conservative or a far-right enabler.

Either label shouldn’t matter if you’re a free speech absolutist, the marketplace of ideas should make his “classical liberal” moniker rise to the top, right? Please. It’s almost undeniable for Quillette to say “he is currently aligned with Republicans and with the pro-Donald Trump camp” when just last year on Colin’s Last Stand, a libertarian podcast, Rubin admitted he would be “happily” voting for President Trump in the 2020 general election, whether the candidate is a social democrat like Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) or even just a neoliberal like Gov. Gavin Newsome (D-CA). Apologies, but facts don’t care about the paycheck.

Are these the intellectual heavyweight administrators we’re supposed to trust won’t become the censorious copycats of big tech? In reality, it appears they’re just echoing the same idealistic crypto-libertarian goals these monopolies were once founded on, where they’re describing themselves as “platforms for free speech” and “intellectual debate”, while at the same time “we won’t take you down unless we’re ordered to by a US court of law”. Sounds perfectly fine when it’s peaceful, disagreeable speech, assuming jihadists or white nationalists don’t abuse the system for recruitment, but not so much regarding the “right to be forgotten” over data privacy.

Why would these figures forgo using data for potential advertisers or associates or nefarious high-bidders if users need a court order for such freedom? Whether Rubin is right about “competition kicking in”, what stops this tech company from functioning all the others, falling within the same repressive capitalist paradigm where the white nationalist push comes to shove and users demand their name deleted from the grift?

We’ve seen how the “alternative” social media sites, running under the false guise of protecting free speech, has simply devolved into a cesspool for bigotry. It was Gab that became the prominent face of many controversies, such as being frequented by the gunman in last year’s Pittsburgh synagogue shooting and his views not being deleted because it was profitable. Considering Peterson and Rubin made a combined total of $2M annually over Patreon, excluding outside business dealings, why trust potential elites over the actual ones if decentralisation and fair administrative judgement are secondary to the free speech mantra that’s exploited rather than explored? Don’t hold your breath as these boys once again start crying wolf.

Thanks for reading! This article was originally published for, a bipartisan media platform for political and social commentary, truly diverse viewpoints and facts that don’t kowtow to political correctness.

Bailey Steen is a journalist, graphic designer and film critic residing in the heart of Australia. You can also find his work right here on Medium and publications such as Janks Reviews.

For updates, feel free to follow @atheist_cvnt on his various social media pages on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or Gab. You can also contact through for personal or business reasons.

Stay honest and radical. Cheers, darlings. 💋

troubled writer, depressed slug, bisexual simp, neoliberal socialist, trotskyist-bidenist, “corn-pop was a good dude, actually,” bio in pronouns: (any/all)

Get the Medium app

A button that says 'Download on the App Store', and if clicked it will lead you to the iOS App store
A button that says 'Get it on, Google Play', and if clicked it will lead you to the Google Play store